Showing posts with label diverse reads. Show all posts
Showing posts with label diverse reads. Show all posts

Friday, February 8, 2019

Buddy Read Update No. 4/Wrap Up: The Hate U Give, by Angie Thomas





The Hate U Give
Angie Thomas
Hardcover, 444 pages
Balzer + Bray
February 28, 2017
African-American Fiction,Coming-of-Age, Contemporary Fiction, Diverse Reads,
Social Justice, Young Adult Fiction



https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32075671-the-hate-u-give





A three-time winner of Goodreads Choice Awards

Sixteen-year-old Starr Carter moves between two worlds: the poor neighborhood where she lives and the fancy suburban prep school she attends. The uneasy balance between these worlds is shattered when Starr witnesses the fatal shooting of her childhood best friend Khalil at the hands of a police officer. Khalil was unarmed.

Soon afterward, his death is a national headline. Some are calling him a thug, maybe even a drug dealer and a gangbanger. Protesters are taking to the streets in Khalil’s name. Some cops and the local drug lord try to intimidate Starr and her family. What everyone wants to know is: what really went down that night? And the only person alive who can answer that is Starr.

But what Starr does—or does not—say could upend her community. It could also endanger her life.


********************

This buddy read is presented by 
Maria @ A Night's Dream of Books
and
Barb @ Booker T's Farm!!


For this week's post, 
we both read Chapters 22 to 26,
which brought us to the end of the book.

Be sure to visit Barb's blog to read
her half of our "chat"! 
You can access her post HERE!!


Warning!!
This post, as well as that of my fellow
buddy reader, may contain spoilers!
Read at your own risk!!


This is our last buddy read post..... Yep, this is our fourth and final week! I can't BELIEVE how FAST the time went by! 

I have felt a little sad each time I've come to the end of a buddy read, too, although I haven't done that many of them.

I feel especially sad about coming to the end of this particular book. The characters were SO vividly drawn, the plot SO intense, I actually felt as if I were watching the movie already! I wanted to get into the book and give Starr a BIG HUG, as well as dap! I wanted to stay with her family and share their lives for some time. Heck, I wanted to IMMERSE myself in their world! 

Of course, I will also miss this back-and-forth question format with Barb! But not for long, as we're already planning our next buddy read!! We will reveal our plans when we firm everything up, and then we'll share with all of you, our readers and visitors!

Our very last posts will be our individual reviews of this book. The dates are tentative at this point, but we'll have these reviews published as soon as we're able to. Please refer to my Launch Post for the weekly schedule. You can find that post HERE.


And now for the last week's questions....

Barb: What are your feelings on Starr and basically the rest of her family hiding the fact that she was dating Chris from Mav?

Maria: I wasn't very comfortable with it. However, Mav was very protective of Starr. I got the impression he didn't think she should have been dating ANYONE, since she was sixteen, and that's too young for a girl to be dating, in his opinion. He wasn't too happy, either,  when he found out that his daughter was dating 'a white boy', especially in light of the Khalil case.

The irony here is that Starr herself was somewhat conflicted about dating Chris, although thankfully, she resolved this by the end of the book.

While I didn't like it much, I can see why the family acted this way. They figured that Mav would get all bent out of shape if he ever found out. And he did find out! Lol. 

Barb: In the end, DeVante decides to turn evidence in against King. Do you think doing so will make much of a difference? A lot of times, even when arrested, gang leaders manage to keep a stranglehold on the community. Do you think DeVante will ever be safe?

Maria: I was totally surprised by this, considering the fact that King had been looking for DeVante, and his goons finally found him and beat him up. I don't think he will ever really be safe, unless he moves to another city, maybe. 

And you're right, gangs do have a way of keeping control of the communities they're in. They do this even from jail! In this case, too, there are other gangs in Garden Heights that work with the King Lords. So I really don't think that DeVante's decision to turn witness will do much good, in the long run. 

Barb: And speaking of DeVante, I watched the movie Saturday and he doesn't factor into it at all. Do you think they left an important piece of the puzzle out and can you imagine this story without him in it?

Maria: Oh, you've already watched the movie? I haven't, but I did look it up on Wikipedia. That's where I found out that DeVante was not included in the plot. I even searched the list of actors included in the article, looking for the one who had played this character. Of course, I didn't find him.....

I was very disappointed to see that the makers of the movie had eliminated DeVante. I love this character. He's a good guy who, like Khalil, did what he did in order to look out for his family. 

I really enjoyed the relationship that developted between DeVante and Starr's family. Her dad and uncle became surrogate fathers and friends to him, helping him as much as possible. I'm going to miss that in the movie, if I do decide to watch it.

I also totally enjoyed the friendship between DeVante and Chris! I loved it when they gave each other dap, and played video games together. That, too, I will miss in the film....

Last but not least, I also liked that DeVante was a good friend to Starr. At first, I thought he was a bit condescending to her, but later, I saw that I had been wrong. He actually became another Khalil for her. I felt this was a very nice touch on the part of the author. 

Well, you know how it is -- most of the time, the book is better than the movie! 

Barb: Starr, Seven and Chris didn't hesitate to jump into the protests which placed them right in the middle of the riots going on. Do you feel they were right in doing so? 

Maria: Well, they didn't really want to do anything violent, and they didn't. Starr, Seven and DeVante (SO sad he's not in the movie....I have to say it again), wanted to show their solidarity with their fellow African-Americans, so I think they felt they had a duty to be present, even if they didn't participate in the violence and the looting that went on. And it ended up that Starr became the one who actively participated -- not in violence, but in speaking out in front of everyone. I thought she was GREAT! Gone was her fear. It was replaced by outrage that justice had not been done.

As for Chris, I LOVED that he went right along with the rest of them! He, too, was outraged about the outcome of the murder case, especially since it had an adverse impact on Starr. And then, too, he and DeVante had become friends. So, by the time this part of the novel came up, I was totally rooting for Chris being Starr's boyfriend! It really took guts for him to participate in this with Starr, her brother, and friend, as, being the only white person around, he could have gotten hurt. YAY for Chris!!!! 
 

Thanks for the GREAT, thought-provoking questions, Barb, not only this final week, but also during the three previous weeks! It's been so interesting and fun to have participated in my second buddy read with you! I can't wait for the next one to start!! (Hey, maybe we can move it up a little!) 

Blog visitors and regular readers, be sure to visit Barb's blog (see the link above) to see how she answered my questions for this last week! And.......stay tuned as well for our reviews!! 




What do you all think?
Have we piqued your curiosity
about this book?
Be sure to let us know!
Don't forget to visit Barb's blog
to get her side of this "chat"!!
 
 





Friday, February 1, 2019

Buddy Read Update No. 3: The Hate U Give, by Angie Thomas





The Hate U Give
Angie Thomas
Hardcover, 444 pages
Balzer + Bray
February 28, 2017
African-American Fiction,Coming-of-Age, Contemporary Fiction, Diverse Reads,
Social Justice, Young Adult Fiction



https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32075671-the-hate-u-give





A three-time winner of Goodreads Choice Awards

Sixteen-year-old Starr Carter moves between two worlds: the poor neighborhood where she lives and the fancy suburban prep school she attends. The uneasy balance between these worlds is shattered when Starr witnesses the fatal shooting of her childhood best friend Khalil at the hands of a police officer. Khalil was unarmed.

Soon afterward, his death is a national headline. Some are calling him a thug, maybe even a drug dealer and a gangbanger. Protesters are taking to the streets in Khalil’s name. Some cops and the local drug lord try to intimidate Starr and her family. What everyone wants to know is: what really went down that night? And the only person alive who can answer that is Starr.

But what Starr does—or does not—say could upend her community. It could also endanger her life.


********************

This buddy read is presented by 
Maria @ A Night's Dream of Books
and
Barb @ Booker T's Farm!!


For this week's post, 
we both read Chapters 15 to 21.

Be sure to visit Barb's blog to read
her half of our "chat"! 
You can access her post HERE!!


Warning!!
This post, as well as that of my fellow
buddy reader, may contain spoilers!
Read at your own risk!!


Well, things have REALLY heated up (cough, cough, Barb, hint, wink......) in this book!! I can see why it's been praised so much!! Again I have to say it -- this is truly a RIVETING read!! Thomas has created characters that you can really resonate with, to the point that you FEEL like part of their family!! To be quite honest, I want MORE of them all! (Well, except for Hailey and Officer Cruise. UGH.)

So now I'm going to answer this third week's questions from Barb. She, too, will be answering my own questions. The link to her post is above.

We both had some trouble coming up with questions for this week's update, for some reason. However, I think our questions ended up being GREAT! "All's well that ends well", as The Bard so wisely said! Lol.

Next week, we will publish our final post, with the last set of questions, and a wrap up. 

Our very last post will be a review of the book. Please refer to our Launch Post for the weekly schedule. You can find that post HERE.


Barb: The relationship between Starr and Hailey finally comes to blows (literally), and before you know it, Seven has also jumped in. I can't believe Hailey commented that Khalil would have probably ended up dead sometime anyway! How do you feel about the incident and how Starr's family handled it? Would you have done the same thing?

Maria: ABSOLUTELY I would have punched Hailey, too!! She totally deserved it! Her remarks were callous, cruel, and racist. Starr just couldn't take it anymore, ESPECIALLY in light of Hailey's continual denials that she was, in fact, a racist. It's just SO infuriating when someone says they're not racist, when all the evidence points to the fact that they ARE. Also, Hailey showed a total disregard for Starr's feelings, since Starr was present at the scene of Khalil's murder, and was in anguish over it. I know that violence is not the best course of action, but, in this case, Hailey did have it coming. Some "friend" she was to Starr!

I LOVE Seven, by the way!! He went to his sister's defense at once, and whooped Remy's butt.  I always wished I had a big brother to look out for me....

As for how Starr's family handled the situation, I liked that, too. They were feeling the same frustration and anger Starr was feeling over the grand jury's decision. They understood exactly how she felt, so they weren't too hard on her. If this fight had been over something trivial, things would have been different. But this was a VERY important issue.

Barb: We get to see Starr and her friends go to Prom. Chris is very distant and Starr learns that he is upset she was not honest with him about being the "witness" everyone is talking about in Khalil's shooting. If you had to choose sides, do you believe Starr or Chris had more valid points and why?

Maria: Actually, I don't think I can take sides. They each had their valid points. That said, my first thought was that, instead of sulking, Chris could have asked Starr straight out why she hid this from him, why she apparently felt that she couldn't trust him. At first, I also thought his sulking was immature. In a relationship, people sometimes have to talk things over. This sulking thing only made the situation worse. On the other hand, guys are not comfortable talking about their emotions. (I know this from experience, lol.) So Chris probably found it difficult to start such a conversation with Starr.

By the way, you were right -- Chris is PERFECT for Starr! I'm glad Angie Thomas had them stay together. He's SO sweet to Starr! And he's totally committed to their relationship. He wants to share everything with her. He's just GREAT!! So I can forgive him for sulking. In fact, that shows he truly does care for Starr. If not, he wouldn't have felt hurt by her not opening up about being "the witness" everyone was talking about.

As for Starr, I can understand her reluctance to tell Chris that she was, in fact, "the witness". Although she and Chris have a very special relationship, and do love each other, Starr did feel that, because Chris was white, she might have somehow been "betraying" her own race. She was all torn up about this feeling, too, because she did know how Chris felt about her. 

I think Starr would have eventually told her boyfriend that she had been present when Khalil was murdered. But she was afraid that EVERYONE at school would find out. I'm glad she finally found the courage to go ahead and tell him, as well as finally make the decision to speak out.

Barb: Starr finally faces the media and I feel that her interview goes very well overall. However, toward the end of it, she goes off-script from what she and Ofrah had planned, and puts some truths out there. Starr is constantly battling over if she is being brave or not, but I think she definitely was in this case. Do you think she did the right thing?

Maria: For SURE! She was no longer afraid to speak out. More accurately, her anger at the injustice of it all overcame her fear. 

The long, horrible history of racism in this country is something that African-Americans have to deal with on a daily basis. Even after the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act were passed, thanks to the Civil Rights Movement, racism did not go away. Instead, it became more subtle. Black people applying for good jobs were told things like: "Unfortunately, another person has already been hired, but we'd like to thank you for applying." The same thing happened regarding housing: "Yes, the apartment was available, but just this morning, someone came and rented it. They've already signed the lease."

Recently, racism has come out into the open again. It's a VERY UGLY thing. Besides, people still remember the Trayvon Martin case. Black Lives Matter was founded (and inspired Thomas in the writing of this novel) because of this and other, similar cases. So Starr felt that "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH." 

Barb: So we get to celebrate Seven's 18th birthday and people from both of Starr's worlds attend. During the party, Seven's mom Iesha shows up and Seven goes off on her. Do you think he was justified in doing so? In another reference to the party, do you find it weird that Kenya is always referring to Seven as HER brother when he is in fact Starr's half-brother as well? Why do you think she does so?

Maria: I can certainly feel for Seven..... The fact that he was the product of the affair between Maverick and Iesha must have made him feel that he was "a mistake". And, incredibly, Lisa, Mav's wife, has been more of a mother to him than his biological mother. 

I really like and admire Lisa, by the way. A LOT of women would have rejected Seven because his father cheated on them, but not Lisa. She really does have a big heart! 

As for Iesha, I have VERY mixed feelings about her. She dresses like a you-know-what, and she slept with a married man. But she has to endure King's beatings, so I kinda feel sorry for her. I'm wondering, too, if there isn't another side to the story, if her apparent neglect of Seven was in fact an attempt to protect him from King. That might be the real reason she put him out of her house. Of course, Seven wouldn't understand that his mother may actually have been trying to protect him from her husband. 

I don't think Seven should have acted the way he did, right in front of all those people, but, like in the situation with Starr and Hailey, there's only so much that people can take. You tolerate things up to a point, and then you explode. He didn't plan on acting that way. 

As for Kenya calling Seven "her" brother, I think that's because she has resented Starr for years, really. I just get that feeling, from all the little digs she has thrown at Starr for the longest time. Her attitude toward Starr begins to change after Starr finally decides to speak out.
 

Thanks for the GREAT, thought-provoking questions, Barb!!  <3  :)


Blog visitors and regular readers, come on over to each of our blogs next Friday for the last set of questions and the wrap upl! Stay tuned as well for our reviews!! 




What do you all think?
Have we piqued your curiosity
about this book?
Be sure to let us know!
Don't forget to visit Barb's blog
to get her side of this "chat"!!
 
 





Friday, January 25, 2019

Buddy Read Update No. 2: The Hate U Give, by Angie Thomas





The Hate U Give
Angie Thomas
Hardcover, 444 pages
Balzer + Bray
February 28, 2017
African-American Fiction,Coming-of-Age, Contemporary Fiction, Diverse Reads,
Social Justice, Young Adult Fiction



https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32075671-the-hate-u-give





A three-time winner of Goodreads Choice Awards

Sixteen-year-old Starr Carter moves between two worlds: the poor neighborhood where she lives and the fancy suburban prep school she attends. The uneasy balance between these worlds is shattered when Starr witnesses the fatal shooting of her childhood best friend Khalil at the hands of a police officer. Khalil was unarmed.

Soon afterward, his death is a national headline. Some are calling him a thug, maybe even a drug dealer and a gangbanger. Protesters are taking to the streets in Khalil’s name. Some cops and the local drug lord try to intimidate Starr and her family. What everyone wants to know is: what really went down that night? And the only person alive who can answer that is Starr.

But what Starr does—or does not—say could upend her community. It could also endanger her life.


********************

This buddy read is presented by 
Maria @ A Night's Dream of Books
and
Barb @ Booker T's Farm!!


For this week's post, 
we both read Chapters 8 to 14.

Be sure to visit Barb's blog to read
her half of our "chat"! 
You can access her post HERE!!


Warning!!
This post, as well as that of my fellow
buddy reader, may contain spoilers!
Read at your own risk!!


We're both well into this book now! I must say that, in spite of all the profanity (which I don't like at all), I'm finding this to be a RIVETING read. Thomas has created characters that one can really resonate with! She has totally made the point that all human beings are basically alike, underneath different skin colors, cultures and belief systems. We all want justice and decency for ourselves and our families. We all want a harmonious, peaceful planet. Well....perhaps I shouldn't have stated that "all" of us want these same things. There are, unfortunately, people out there who want power over their fellow human beings over and above the things I mentioned above. Otherwise, novels like The Hate U Give would not be necessary reading in this world.... 

So now I'm going to answer this second week's questions from Barb. She, too, will be answering my own questions. The link to her post is above.

Our last post will be a review of the book. Please refer to our Launch Post for the weekly schedule. You can find that post HERE.


Barb: You asked how I felt when Ofrah announced at Khalil's funeral that the officer wasn't going to be charged and I have a question for you along those lines. How did you feel in general about Just Us for Justice being present at the funeral at all? Do you think it was the time and the place for them to make their presence known? I know funerals are often full of drama but this one really amped it up.

Maria: Girl, you just seem to keep reading my mind! Lol. This is a sign we're both in tune with this book! 

To be honest, I had the same little niggling thought as I was reading that part of the novel. At first, I really didn't think it was appropriate for Ofrah to be at Khalil's funeral. (And by the way, have you noticed the similarity to the name "Oprah"? I think this was intentional on the author's part.) I said to myself, she should have waited to contact the family after the funeral. Starr needed some time in order to process her feelings about what happened. Also, Khalil's family, as well as the community, needed time to process it.

Later, though, I changed my mind completely. The funeral was actually the PERFECT time and place for her to introduce herself and her organization to Starr's family, as well as the community. What I do think she should have done, though, was to protect the privacy of Starr and her family by not giving them her card at the end of the funeral. Starr was nervous about people knowing that she was "the witness". So I do think that Ofrah could have been more discreet about that. She could have easily found out where Starr lived, or she could have gone to Maverick's (Starr's dad) store, and given him her card there.

As for the drama that erupted at the funeral, I was SHOCKED. I've NEVER attended a funeral that was as disruptive as this one! However, I don't blame Ms. Rosalie one bit for acting as she did. The King Lords are similar to the Mafia in the way they operate. Ms. Rosalie did not want them present at Khalil's funeral, and I totally agree with her! I also totally agree with her opinion of Iesha......

Another "by the way": the organization named Just Us For Justice is obviously a reference to the real-life organization, Black Lives Matter, although the names are not similar. However, both organizations have the same goal: achieving justice for African-Americans. 

Barb: The drama between Starr, Hailey and Maya seems to be deepening. When it came out that Hailey actually unfollowed Starr's Tumblr for potential racial reasons, and that she had made comments to Maya in the past that were inappropriate, do you think they will remain friends? Seems Maya and Starr have formed a sort of alliance. Do you think the character of Hailey can be redeemed? 

Maria: Yes, the drama has been deepening, and in Chapter 14 Thomas gets to the bottom of it. Maya is actually not part of the problem except insofar as she has been Hailey's friend. But then Hailey made a racist comment to Maya as well. Now Maya's eyes have been opened, so that's why she and Starr are now allies. Both of them are racial minorities; Starr is African-American, while Maya is Chinese-American. Clearly, Hailey does have an issue with their ethnicity.

I don't think racists can be reformed, UNLESS they come to realize that they are, indeed, racists, that this is wrong, and strive to change. I myself was brought up to be a racist, but I rebelled. Nevertheless, this was something that my family definitely tried to instill in me.

The bottom line is this: a racist can either remain a racist, once they realize that they ARE one, or make every effort to change. Sadly, die-hard racists are unable to change, because they don't think they are, in fact, racists. Hailey is one of these people. She simply doesn't SEE that her way of thinking and looking at the world are totally racist. 

Here's the passage from Chapter 14 in which Maya finally tells Starr the UGLY truth:

"She's lying," Maya says. That's not why she unfollowed you. She said she didn't wanna see that s--t on her dashboard."

I figured. "That Emmett Till picture, right?"

"No. All the 'black stuff,' she called it. The petitions. The Black Panther pictures. That post on those four little girls who were killed in that church. The stuff about that Marcus Garvey guy. The one about those Black Panthers who were shot by the government."

"Fred Hampton and Bobby Hutton," I say.

"Yeah. Them."

WOW. How can someone call herself somebody's friend, and then negate their whole identity, of which their ethnicity is a part?! This is blatant racism! I KNEW I SMELLED A BIG RAT, back when Starr first mentioned that Hailey had unfollowed her Tumblr blog!

The funny thing about racists is that they will ADAMANTLY deny that they're racists. Like when I hear comments such as these from white people: "Just because I don't mingle with blacks doesn't mean I'm a racist. I don't mistreat them. I don't insult them. I just think that they should stay in their own neighborhoods. We have our place, and they have theirs. And I don't think you should "mongrelize" children, either. That's what happens when blacks and whites intermarry."

WOW. Hey, as the saying goes, "Denial is not a river in Egypt." The comment above is a composite of several racist comments I heard from our neighbors, as I was growing up. This type of thing is just SO ingrained in these people, they will NEVER stop thinking this way. I think, from the quote I provided above, that Hailey is one of these racists who think, "Hey, I'm not a racist. I have a BLACK friend! How could you EVEN accuse me of being a racist?!" This question is asked in an indignant tone. Such people are BLIND as to how racist they really are. And they DON'T want to have their eyes opened, either. You see, they're very COMFORTABLE in their racism. 

There's another great saying here: "My mind is made up. Don't confuse me with the facts." Racists are entirely close-minded. Why? Because prejudice is irrational. No amount of evidence and logic will make a die-hard racist change their twisted way of thinking. 

So my final verdict is: no, Hailey cannot be redeemed. Just as a die-hard alcoholic cannot be redeemed. As long as either a racist or an alcoholic continues to think that they don't have a problem, then they will NEVER change. Wanting to change has to come from within. 

The problem here is, if minorities and other oppressed groups sit around waiting for racists and people who think like them to change and treat them better, these minorities and other oppressed groups will remain mistreated forever. Therefore, activism is necessary. New, anti-discriminatory laws must be put in place. And this is what the great Martin Luther King, Jr. did. Although we still have a loooong way to go.....

Also, I don't think that Hailey and Starr will remain friends. Instead, Starr's friendship with Maya will grow stronger.   

Barb: So it seems now everyone is out to save DeVante. Do you feel they are acting out of guilt, and do you think that Starr will eventually leave Chris for DeVante? (And by the way, in the movie, Chris is played by the guy who plays Archie on Riverdale. I may have trouble accepting him as another character when I watch it).

Maria: Starr's dad, Maverick, definitely feels some responsibility for DeVante. He (Maverick) remembers how difficult it was to leave the King Lords, and he can see how scared DeVante is of their leader, King. I think Mav is doing the right thing by helping DeVante.

Once again, you've read my mind! When DeVante and Starr went out to play basketball at Rose Park, I started wondering if the author was going to have Starr fall for him. There was also a scene in her dad's grocery store, in which she was teaching DeVante the duties of his new job as a clerk at the store, where I started to ask myself this question, too. 

I don't know if I would want Starr to leave Chris. He is just SO sweet to her! Even though she's been hard on him, he hasn't reacted immaturely by ignoring her, or playing some sort of head game, in order to "get revenge".

Starr is already suffering enough, due to Khalil's murder. She doesn't need to take on DeVante's issues, too. On the other hand, DeVante is not really a bad guy. He wants to get out of the King Lords. And he actually asked Maverick for help in doing so. When Maverick offered him a job at the store, he accepted. So there's hope for him.

DeVante might be a better match for Starr than Chris, simply because, like her, he's grown up in Garden Heights, and sees the world the way Starr does. I don't know that Chris can thoroughly understand where Starr is coming from, how she thinks, just because she's African-American, and knows what it's like to live life in a racist world.

So I actually have mixed feelings about whether Starr should be dating Chris or DeVante. I like both guys. But on the other hand.... I'm not sure I like DeVante calling Starr "li'l momma". Was he being condescending? I'm wondering about that.....
 
Barb: So Mr. Lewis makes a point of calling out King and his gang on a live interview. Do you think this was smart or a complete lack of judgement?

Maria: OMG.... I thought that was absolutely the WRONG thing for Mr. Lewis to do! Not only did he risk his own life, but also, the King Lords are not the real problem. Gangs like them exist because of the complex set of circumstances that limit the progress of African-Americans living in "the hood". It's a whole chain of events. And it all starts with poor schools. Inner-city schools never have enough funds to function at quality levels. Kids are not given the tools necessary to better themselves. So a vicious cycle begins. That was why Starr's parents decided to send her to Williamson, the prep school all the way across town, in the white neighborhood. Unfortunately, Starr would not be getting a good education at a Garden Heights school.

Before gangs like the King Lords can be disbanded, social conditions must change. The vicious cycle of poor education and lack of opportunities must change. 

So Mr. Lewis's outburst was completely misguided. All he got from it was a heavy beating by the very people he exposed in a live TV interview. And he was lucky he wasn't killed!


Thanks for the GREAT questions, Barb!!  <3  :)


Blog visitors and regular readers, come on over to each of our blogs every Friday for the next few weeks, as we share our thoughts and insights on this highly-acclaimed novel! Thanks in advance for any comments you might wish to make!  :)




What do you all think?
Have we piqued your curiosity
about this book?
Be sure to let us know!
Don't forget to visit Barb's blog
to get her side of this "chat"!!
 
 





Friday, January 18, 2019

Buddy Read Update No. 1: The Hate U Give, by Angie Thomas





The Hate U Give
Angie Thomas
Hardcover, 444 pages
Balzer + Bray
February 28, 2017
African-American Fiction,Coming-of-Age, Contemporary Fiction, Diverse Reads,
Social Justice, Young Adult Fiction



https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32075671-the-hate-u-give





A three-time winner of Goodreads Choice Awards

Sixteen-year-old Starr Carter moves between two worlds: the poor neighborhood where she lives and the fancy suburban prep school she attends. The uneasy balance between these worlds is shattered when Starr witnesses the fatal shooting of her childhood best friend Khalil at the hands of a police officer. Khalil was unarmed.

Soon afterward, his death is a national headline. Some are calling him a thug, maybe even a drug dealer and a gangbanger. Protesters are taking to the streets in Khalil’s name. Some cops and the local drug lord try to intimidate Starr and her family. What everyone wants to know is: what really went down that night? And the only person alive who can answer that is Starr.

But what Starr does—or does not—say could upend her community. It could also endanger her life.


********************

This buddy read is presented by 
Maria @ A Night's Dream of Books
and
Barb @ Booker T's Farm!!


For this week's post, 
we both read Chapters 1 to 7.

Be sure to visit Barb's blog to read
her half of our "chat"! 
You can access her post HERE!!


Warning!!
This post, as well as that of my fellow
buddy reader, may contain spoilers!
Read at your own risk!!


I am once again teaming up with fellow book blogger Barb!! This time, we're reading a book that has received high acclaim from readers and critics alike, and has been made into a movie that has already grossed over $32 million at the box office.  (Source: Wikipedia) The movie is now available on Amazon, in DVD, Blue-ray, and 4K.

For our buddy read, Barb and I have decided to read certain chapters each week. We'll be posing questions to each other, which we will then be answering in each other's weekly update posts.  Our last post will be a review of the book. Please refer to our Launch Post for the weekly schedule. You can find that post HERE.


So now I'm going to answer this first week's questions from Barb. She, too, will be answering my own questions. The link to her post is above.

Barb: There is a scene where Starr and her friends are playing basketball in the gym and one of her friends makes a comment which Starr interpreted as a racial one. Do you think that was the case or do you think her friend was just being ignorant?

Maria: Well, to be quite honest, I had no idea there was such a thing as a fried chicken stereotype, in reference to African-Americans. I really didn't. 

This is the actual comment made by one of Starr's friends, Hailey, right in the middle of a basketball game in which some girls are playing against a group of boys: "Hustle! Pretend the ball is some fried chicken. Bet you'll stay on it then." 

Hailey could have been just as ignorant as me, except for the fact that this definitely sounds like an intentional, sarcastic dig at Starr. Oh, and I almost forgot -- Hailey unfollowed Starr's Tumblr shortly before this incident, and Starr has been obsessing about that. WHY would Hailey unfollow her friend's Tumblr? Hmmm.... I SMELL A RAT. A BIG ONE, TOO.

The fact that Hailey directed her "joke" specifically at Starr makes me think that she was very much aware of the existence of this stereotype. Heck, Starr is one of only three black people at Williamson, the elite prep school her parents have enrolled her in.

According to Wikipedia, "
It is a commonly held stereotype that African-Americans love fried chicken, which race and folklore professor Claire Schmidt attributes both to its popularity in Southern cuisine and to a scene from the film Birth of a Nation, in which a rowdy African-American man is seen eating fried chicken in a legislative hall. The stereotype is occasionally portrayed as "chicken and waffles". Source: Wikipedia)

The intention behind this stereotype was to portray African-Americans as animals. Here's another quote from the Internet article, "How Can Fried Chicken and Watermelon Be Racist? This Might Surprise You", by Franchesca Ramsey. (You can access this article HERE.) Check out this quote: "Fried chicken became the go-to way to make black people look like animals. But the savage, chicken-loving black person wasn’t just a stereotype of the distant past. Until the late 1950s, there was a successful restaurant chain literally called The Coon Chicken Inn. No, that’s not cool."

I suspected that the word "coon", which I previously knew only as the short form of "raccoon" probably had racist connotations, as well. So I googled it. Sure enough, it's a derogatory slang term for a black person. 

So to conclude, it seemed to me that the white students at Williamson tended to be insulated from everything REAL connected to the African-American community. The only black person they knew was Starr. They never set foot in Garden Heights, for example, which is where Starr lives. Therefore, they had no clue as to what the real lives of African-Americans were like. All they probably knew about blacks was the stereotypes. 

Barb:  It seems that the book is trying to make a point (which I figure we'll learn more about as we continue reading). However, do you find it surprising that the author herself kind of used some typical stereotypes for her portrayal of Starr (good athlete, use of slang, etc).

Maria: Well, I think that the author, Angie Thomas, was trying to portray Starr, as well as her family and friends, realistically. However, it would seem that she did engage in some stereotyping herself, not only in her depiction of Starr, but of her family and friends (the ones who lived in Garden Heights). 

I have stated "it would seem" because I happen to work in a high school (although I teach adults in the evening program, and not teens). When I go in to work every afternoon, there are still day school kids hanging around. So, as I'm heading toward the school entrance, I catch snatches of conversations. I hear "the F bomb" quite often, and unfortunately, also "Hey, mah n____r", plus " 'Sup?", and other stuff. I hear this both from white and black kids. This is a public school, too, so I don't know if prep school kids also talk this way. The author of this novel seems to think that they don't, as she contrasts the Starr who lives in Garden Heights (which Starr herself labels "the ghetto") with the Starr who attends Williamson. When she's at her school, Starr makes every attempt to NOT sound like "a ghetto girl". She doesn't use slang, nor typical expressions used by the kids who live in Garden Heights. 

In other words, Starr feels ashamed of her origins. I think Thomas wrote the character this way in order to highlight the cultural differences between African-Americans who grew up in "the hood" and white people, either from the middle class or the upper classes. 

I also think she did this to emphasize -- and I think this is her point, or at least, one of them -- that, when you have a dominant group that has oppressed an "inferior" group for centuries, members of the oppressed group tend to feel ashamed of belonging to this group, and make every effort to distance themselves from it, especially while in the presence of members of the dominant group. It's a psychological defense tactic. 

Barb: Although it's still early, Uncle Carlos is already having to straddle both worlds because, while he loves Starr, he is also in law enforcement and knows "115," the officer that shoots Khalil. I kind of feel badly for him in a way and in a way I don't. What are your feelings about Uncle Carlos?

Maria: So you zeroed in on Uncle Carlos, too! You must have read my mind, because I almost sent you a question about him! 

To be honest, I have VERY mixed feelings about Uncle Carlos. He does seem to love Starr, but, on the other hand, I don't like that he came off as a bit defensive when first speaking to Starr's family about this killing. He seems to be unsure whether to side with his colleagues, who are all cops, or his own niece, Starr.

He definitely appeared to be conflicted. He wanted Starr to clear things up regarding Khalil's death, but..... it REALLY bothered me that he insisted Starr didn't need a lawyer present during her interrogation by the police. Say WHAT?! Isn't it standard procedure for a person to have a lawyer present when the police want to interrogate him/her? At least, this is what I know from watching "Law and Order" on TV. So to me, this was a HUGE red flag. 

You used the right word: "straddle". Uncle Carlos is not quite sure where his loyalties lie. This is bad enough, since he's a black man himself, but the fact that his NIECE is involved makes it even WORSE. He should be protective of her, as well as on her side!

Barb: We're only 7 chapters in and already music is playing an important role in the book. I love music, but have to admit that at times I feel I surprise people with my musical preferences. What about you? Any surprising musical choices? (Most people have trouble reconciling me with my love of Eminem's music.)

Maria: Yes, you're right, music does play an important role in this book. I LOVE that, too!

In answer to your question, I tend to be pretty eclectic. I listen to classical music (my favorite composers are Rachmaninoff and Brahms), jazz, classic rock, New Age music, and electronic music. I also love certain singers, like Whitney Houston, Barbra Streisand, Janet & Michael Jackson, and Donna Summer. Michael Jackson's music style is also a favorite of mine. Oh, and I also like Cher.

I also LOVE progressive rock. My favorite groups in this category are "Yes", "Led Zeppelin", and "Pink Floyd". 

Some people are surprised when I tell them I enjoy listening to electronic music. This type of music is mostly associated with people in their twenties. I'm not in that age group, lol. But I really enjoy listening to this type of music! I would LOVE to attend an electronic music festival, such as "Ultra", which is held annually in Miami. 

Thanks for the GREAT questions, Barb!!  <3  :)


Blog visitors and regular readers, come on over to each of our blogs every Friday for the next few weeks, as we share our thoughts and insights on this highly-acclaimed novel! Thanks in advance for any comments you might wish to make!  :)




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